Comments on: My Vietnamese Student Installed Ubuntu Linux :) http://www.saigonnezumi.com/2007/09/22/my-vietnamese-student-installed-ubuntu-linux/ Insider's Perspective of Saigon, Vietnam Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:41:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: paolo http://www.saigonnezumi.com/2007/09/22/my-vietnamese-student-installed-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-21746 paolo Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:48:26 +0000 http://www.saigonnezumi.com/?p=445#comment-21746 I agree that the important thing is freedom and not openness. The important term is GNU and not linux. Well, in fact, my domain is GNUband.org ;-) But I understand that in some countries speaking of freedom introduces other issues and difficulties. By the way, I just found this article: I don't usually search for articles about Vietnam and Free Software so this is a strange coincidence. http://www.rebelion.org/noticia.php?id=56853 Una delegación del Gobierno de Vietnam visita Extremadura para conocer su modelo de software libre I agree that the important thing is freedom and not openness. The important term is GNU and not linux. Well, in fact, my domain is GNUband.org ;-)
But I understand that in some countries speaking of freedom introduces other issues and difficulties.

By the way, I just found this article: I don’t usually search for articles about Vietnam and Free Software so this is a strange coincidence.
http://www.rebelion.org/noticia.php?id=56853
Una delegación del Gobierno de Vietnam visita Extremadura para conocer su modelo de software libre

]]> By: Tracy Reed http://www.saigonnezumi.com/2007/09/22/my-vietnamese-student-installed-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-21610 Tracy Reed Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:53:43 +0000 http://www.saigonnezumi.com/?p=445#comment-21610 I agree with Stallman that we really should try to use the word Free whenever possible (perhaps not possible in VN and that needs to change also but that is a different issue) because the Free Software community that built GNU, Linux, etc. will not exist if we all think only in terms of open source and not in terms of freedom for the user. The Internet used to be a very different place before the great flood of '96 when everyone and their mom got on the Internet and totally destroyed the values of the old Internet culture and left us with spam and viruses and top posting email clients. I hope the same thing does not happen to Linux. I agree with Stallman that we really should try to use the word Free whenever possible (perhaps not possible in VN and that needs to change also but that is a different issue) because the Free Software community that built GNU, Linux, etc. will not exist if we all think only in terms of open source and not in terms of freedom for the user. The Internet used to be a very different place before the great flood of ’96 when everyone and their mom got on the Internet and totally destroyed the values of the old Internet culture and left us with spam and viruses and top posting email clients. I hope the same thing does not happen to Linux.

]]> By: paolo http://www.saigonnezumi.com/2007/09/22/my-vietnamese-student-installed-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-21577 paolo Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:23:25 +0000 http://www.saigonnezumi.com/?p=445#comment-21577 I'll read your post then. I subscribed to your RSS ;-) I agree that speaking of OST instead of freedom avoids a lot of debates. And it is very interesting the fact that "freedom" has a different meaning, I guess Stallman is seen as a revolutionary more in some countries than in others, interesting. Ok, I wait your next post. Read you soon ;-) I’ll read your post then. I subscribed to your RSS ;-)
I agree that speaking of OST instead of freedom avoids a lot of debates. And it is very interesting the fact that “freedom” has a different meaning, I guess Stallman is seen as a revolutionary more in some countries than in others, interesting.
Ok, I wait your next post. Read you soon ;-)

]]> By: SaigonNezumi (Kevin) http://www.saigonnezumi.com/2007/09/22/my-vietnamese-student-installed-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-21569 SaigonNezumi (Kevin) Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:42:03 +0000 http://www.saigonnezumi.com/?p=445#comment-21569 Hi Paolo: I really enjoyed that article but can see many problems posed by it. I will post a blog entry on it later this week. I know about the German fund but had no idea it was part of the FOSS Bridge. In Vietnam, the Ho Chi Minh Computer Association is using the term "Open Source Technology" instead of FOSS, FLOSS or OSS. For obvious political reasons, the word 'Freedom' in this country has a different meaning. I personally like OST myself since it avoids the debate many guys seem to face. The Saigon Linux Group Mirror offers Ubuntu. If anyone asks me, I can get them a copy of the CD at no cost though we are fans of openSUSE and Sabayon/Gentoo Linux. Hi Paolo:

I really enjoyed that article but can see many problems posed by it. I will post a blog entry on it later this week. I know about the German fund but had no idea it was part of the FOSS Bridge.

In Vietnam, the Ho Chi Minh Computer Association is using the term “Open Source Technology” instead of FOSS, FLOSS or OSS. For obvious political reasons, the word ‘Freedom’ in this country has a different meaning. I personally like OST myself since it avoids the debate many guys seem to face.

The Saigon Linux Group Mirror offers Ubuntu. If anyone asks me, I can get them a copy of the CD at no cost though we are fans of openSUSE and Sabayon/Gentoo Linux.

]]> By: paolo http://www.saigonnezumi.com/2007/09/22/my-vietnamese-student-installed-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-21563 paolo Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:48:25 +0000 http://www.saigonnezumi.com/?p=445#comment-21563 I don't know directly about FOSS Bridge, I'm sorry. ;-( Do you know that you can ask Ubuntu CDs for free? See https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ I got 300 of them some time ago ;-) http://flickr.com/photos/phauly/28820405/in/set-649686/ An interesting project is also the Freedom Toaster http://www.freedomtoaster.org/ I don't know in Vietnam but in Italy when you offer a CD for free, people approach you ;-) then you can explain about the importance of freedom in software, and also how Ubuntu Linux is immune to viruses (!) (and also the rest if you have time). If just 1 out of 15 people check Ubunut and speak about it to at least one other person, you are already starting a revolution ;-) I don’t know directly about FOSS Bridge, I’m sorry. ;-(

Do you know that you can ask Ubuntu CDs for free?
See https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
I got 300 of them some time ago ;-)
http://flickr.com/photos/phauly/28820405/in/set-649686/
An interesting project is also the Freedom Toaster
http://www.freedomtoaster.org/

I don’t know in Vietnam but in Italy when you offer a CD for free, people approach you ;-)
then you can explain about the importance of freedom in software, and also how Ubuntu Linux is immune to viruses (!) (and also the rest if you have time). If just 1 out of 15 people check Ubunut and speak about it to at least one other person, you are already starting a revolution ;-)

]]> By: SaigonNezumi (Kevin) http://www.saigonnezumi.com/2007/09/22/my-vietnamese-student-installed-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-21504 SaigonNezumi (Kevin) Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:21:41 +0000 http://www.saigonnezumi.com/?p=445#comment-21504 The Master Plan was pretty much nullified when Bill Gate's came to Vietnam promoting Window's software. You see open source in SMEs here and in large corporations as well but mostly, users use Window's products when nobody is looking. It does not matter if OpenOffice.org is installed on desktops, users here will just have the IT staff install MS Office instead. I heard about the FOSS Bridge but have not seen much action from this NGO as of yet. Please correct me if I am wrong :) The Master Plan was pretty much nullified when Bill Gate’s came to Vietnam promoting Window’s software. You see open source in SMEs here and in large corporations as well but mostly, users use Window’s products when nobody is looking. It does not matter if OpenOffice.org is installed on desktops, users here will just have the IT staff install MS Office instead.

I heard about the FOSS Bridge but have not seen much action from this NGO as of yet. Please correct me if I am wrong :)

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